Ex parte TROISI - Page 4




          Appeal No. 1997-4441                                                         
          Application 08/370,095                                                       

               The Examiner states (FR2):  "The limitation that the                    
          'weigh pan' has a length that is essentially the length of the               
          products to be weighed is indefinite because the length of the               
          weigh pan is based on an unspecified product with an                         
          unspecified length.  See MPEP § 2173.05(b) and                               
          Ex parte Brummer, 12 USPQ2d 1652 (Bd. Pat. App. & Inter.,                    
          1989)."                                                                      
               Appellant argues that apparatus claims 1, 3-6, and 11 are               
          definite because "checkweighers are designed for weighing a                  
          particular product having given dimensions, including a                      
          predetermined length in their direction of movement across the               
          weigh pan" (Br8) and "[a] checkweigher manufacturer, seller,                 
          or user can readily ascertain whether the limitation as to                   
          weigh pan length is met because the checkweigher is configured               
          for a stream of like-sized products having known dimensions"                 
          (Br8).                                                                       
               The Examiner responds that it cannot be determined                      
          whether a checkweigher will infringe because the product being               
          weighed is not part of the claimed subject matter (EA4-5).                   
               We understand the Examiner's position, but we view the                  
          claim language in question as being very broad rather than                   

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