Ex parte PETERSON et al. - Page 4




          Appeal No. 97-1974                                                           
          Application 08/286,696                                                       


                                    Rejection (1)                                      
               The rejection of claims 5 to 8 under 35 USC § 112, second               
          paragraph, is based on the examiner's finding that "it is not                
          clear if applicant [sic] is claiming the 'clay flowerpot                     
          holder' in combination with the saucer holder" (answer, pp. 3                
          to 4).  We                                                                   




          consider this rejection to be well taken.  A claim is                        
          indefinite if it does not reasonably apprise those of skill in               
          the art of its scope.  In re Warmerdam, supra.  Regardless of                
          whether claim 5 is in Jepson form (i.e., as provided in 37 CFR               
          § 1.75(e)), as argued by appellants at page 18 of their brief,               
          its scope is indefinite in that one of ordinary skill could                  
          not readily determine whether the recited "a clay flowerpot                  
          holder" constitutes a part of the apparatus which the claim is               
          intended to cover, or is merely a point of reference for the                 
          positions of the saucer holder.  Appellants' argument that                   
          "Everything recited in claim 5 is claimed but the claim                      
          specifies the improvement" begs the question of whether or not               
          the "clay flowerpot holder" is an element of the claimed                     
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