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          Appeal No. 97-4151                                                          
          Application 08/379,181                                                      


          However, we find no written description of such an organizer                
          in the application as filed.  Cf. In re Barker, 559 F.2d 588,               
          194 USPQ 470 (CCPA 1977), cert. denied, 434 U.S. 1064 (1978).               

          Rejections Under 35 USC § 103                                               
               In general, if a claim is indefinite such that it is                   
          necessary to indulge in considerable speculation as to the                  
          meaning of terms therein, it should be rejected under § 112,                
          and not under 35 USC § 103.  In re Steele, 305 F.2d 859, 862,               
          134 USPQ 292, 295 (CCPA 1962).  However, in some instances,                 
          even though a claim is rejected under § 112, second paragraph,              
          the merits of a rejection of that claim under § 103 may still               
          be considered.  See Ex parte Saceman, 27 USPQ2d 1472 (BPAI                  
          1993).                                                                      
               In the present case, we would have to engage in such                   
          considerable speculation as to the meaning of claims 2, 3, 5                
          to 7, 12, 13 and 15 to 17, that consideration of the § 103                  
          rejections of those claims would not be appropriate, and                    
          accordingly, said rejections will not be sustained, pro forma.              
          This is not to say, however, that claims 2, 3, 5 to 7, 12, 13               
          and 15 to 17 would necessarily be patentable over the applied               

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