Ex parte KOIKE et al. - Page 8




          Appeal No. 1999-1663                                                        
          Application No. 08/715,221                                                  


          velocity of the surface waves.  In support of this position,                
          the appellants rely on Attachment “G” in which Figure 2.16                  
          shows a transducer for generating and detecting a surface wave              
          that has completely different structure and operation than the              
          transducers of Thompson (‘836).  In addition, the appellants                
          rely on Attachments “H” and “I” to establish that the                       
          transducer of Thompson (‘836) would not accurately measure                  
          surface waves if they were applied to the test piece.                       
               The examiner’s position (answer, page 4) is that since                 
          the propagating waves of Thompson (‘836) “enter the test piece              
          via said piece’s surface and reflect there within via a                     
          surface of the piece . . . ” that (id.) “said waves are deemed              
          as including ‘surface waves.’”  In addition, the examiner                   
          takes the position that (answer, page 6) “some of these waves               
          [of Thompson (‘836)] are inherently going to include surface                
          waves which propagate through the piece’s surface layer.”  As               
          a response to Attachments “A” - “I” submitted with the brief,               
          and the appellants’ accompanying arguments, the examiner                    
          states (answer, page 9) that                                                
               Appellants then counter the Examiner’s rejection by                    
               providing arguments which take in excess of 15 pages                   

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