Ex Parte Goldstein - Page 5



           Appeal No. 2005-0823                                                                        
           Application No. 10/300,895                                              Page 5              


            of claims 64, 72, 80, 88, 96, 104, 112 and 120 under 35 U.S.C.                             
            § 103(a) as being indefinite (Group 1).                                                    
                  Claims are considered to be definite, as required by the                             
            second paragraph of 35 U.S.C. § 112, when they define the metes                            
            and bounds of a claimed invention with a reasonable degree of                              
            precision and particularity.  See In re Venezia, 530 F.2d 956,                             
            958, 189 USPQ 149, 151 (CCPA 1976).                                                        
                  The examiner's position (answer, page 3) is that the claims                          
            use the trademark/trade name ARC.  The examiner asserts (id.)                              
            that the scope of the claims is uncertain because a trademark or                           
            trade name is used to identify the source of goods, not the goods                          
            themselves, and (answer, page 4) "because of the dynamic nature                            
            of corporations, in that their names and composition can change                            
            over time."                                                                                
                  Appellant's position (brief, page 8) is that “[t]he Examiner                         
            provides no evidence that one of skill in this art would not                               
            fully understand the recitation of ‘reporting the issuance to                              
            Airline Reporting Corporation’ or the scope of the rejected                                
            claims.”  It is argued (reply brief, page 3) that the claims do                            
            not use "ARC" in the trademark sense to identify goods or                                  







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