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               A telephone conference call was held on 17 November 1999,              
          at approximately 9:30 a.m., involving:                                      
                    (1) Ashley I. Pezzner, Esq., counsel for Winter;                  
                    (2) Malcolm J. McDonald, Esq., counsel for Karl; and              
                    (3) Fred E. McKelvey, Senior Administrative Patent                
                         Judge.                                                       

               B.   Discussion                                                        
               The purpose of the conference call was to discuss the                  
          status of the interference.  Karl did not file a list of any                
          preliminary motion to be filed.  Winter indicated that it                   
          might file a preliminary motion to add a reissue (Paper 11,                 
          page 2).  Mr. Pezzner explained that the purpose of the                     
          reissue application would be to obtain claims which are                     
          patentably distinct from the count.  The parties were advised               
          that the board has determined that it will not add reissue                  
          applications to interferences under 37 CFR § 1.633(h) unless                
          all new claims (as opposed to original patent claims) are to                
          be designated as corresponding to the count.  Winter v.                     
          Fujita, Interference 104,283 (Bd. Pat. App. & Int. Nov. 16,                 
          1999) (Paper 73) (copy attached).  It is manifest, based on                 
          the discussion during the conference call, that Winter would                
          seek to file a reissue with narrower claims which Winter would              


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