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          Commissioner, 949 F.2d 401 (10th Cir. 1991); Marine v.                      
          Commissioner, 92 T.C. 958, 992-993 (1989), affd. without                    
          published opinion 921 F.2d 280 (9th Cir. 1991); McCrary v.                  
          Commissioner, 92 T.C. 827, 850 (1989); Rybak v. Commissioner, 91            
          T.C. 524, 565 (1988).  We have rejected pleas of reliance when              
          neither the taxpayer nor the advisers purportedly relied upon by            
          the taxpayer had substantial knowledge about the nontax business            
          aspects of the contemplated venture.  Beck v. Commissioner, 85              
          T.C. 557 (1985); Flowers v. Commissioner, 80 T.C. 914 (1983);               
          Steerman v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1993-447.                              
               Based upon our review of the entire records in these cases,            
          we hold that Brodie's purported reliance on Greene, and Reimann's           
          and the Yarnells' purported reliance on Bachmann, was not                   
          reasonable, not in good faith, nor based upon full disclosure.              
          Neither Bachmann or Greene, nor petitioners, nor anyone                     
          affiliated with Bachmann, Schwartz, had any education or work               
          experience in plastics materials or plastics recycling.  None of            
          petitioners and no one at Bachmann, Schwartz consulted any                  
          independent experts or conducted anything approaching a                     
          meaningful investigation.8  While Bachmann and Abramson did visit           
          8    According to Abramson, Bachmann had a cousin who was an                
          engineer and taught at City College of New York.  Abramson                  
          testified that he thought Bachmann asked his cousin for the                 
          cousin's opinion of the feasibility of the Sentinel EPE recycling           
          machinery and process.  However, Abramson did not elaborate on              
          the cousin's response; he testified only that he was certain                
          Bachmann and he discussed the results of Bachmann's                         
          investigation.  We consider Abramson's testimony on this matter             
          of no probative value.  We are not convinced that Bachmann spoke            
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