Robert L. and Sara J. Helm - Page 6




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               The IRS used our conversion of our IRA’s from                          
               traditional to Roth as an excuse to cause our Social                   
               Security Benefits to become taxable that would not have                
               otherwise been taxable.  This was not the intent of the                
               Roth IRA law.                                                          
          Petitioners expanded on their contention at trial as follows:               
               IRS * * * used the words “rollover” and “distribution”                 
               interchangeably, sometimes in the same sentence, which                 
               from the point of view of taxing the IRA rollover,                     
               doesn’t really matter.                                                 
               When you go on next step down the line, and you’re                     
               considering it as income, the rollover doesn’t create                  
               income.  A distribution would create income, but a                     
               rollover doesn’t.  You don’t get any money.  And from a                
               simplistic point of view, there’s the difference                       
               between not getting money and getting money.                           
               When the law was passed with reference to taxability of                
               Social Security benefits, they referred to income.  And                
               I think they meant actual income.  Money that you got,                 
               not a mythical amount of money that you didn’t get.                    
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               There is a big difference between getting money and not                
               getting money.  And I don’t think my Social Security                   
               benefits should be taxed based on money I didn’t get.                  
               * * * Yes, as far as taxing the rollover, it is a                      
               taxable rollover.  But it is not a distribution.                       
               Now, the fact that Form 8606 said to report this on                    
               [Form 1040] line 15b [taxable amount of IRA                            
               distribution] is their directions.  We ended up                        
               reporting a rollover on a line that is specifically for                
               distributions.  That creates an error, because there is                
               nothing in the Code to exclude anything on line 15b                    
               when it comes to calculating taxability of Social                      
               Security benefits.                                                     
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