Ramzy M. and Lena Kopty - Page 19




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         ESOP, as required by section 402(c)(3).  We discuss the basis for            
         petitioners’ assertion that Mr. Kopty failed to make a valid                 
         rollover in more detail below.                                               
              Based on the factual premise that Mr. Kopty failed to make a            
         valid rollover, petitioners contend that Mr. Kopty’s account at              
         Norwest was not an IRA within the meaning of section 408(a) and              
         they are not subject to tax on the distributions from that                   
         account.  Furthermore, petitioners argue that the determination              
         made by respondent in the notice of deficiency is based upon                 
         Norwest’s incorrect conclusion that Mr. Kopty had made a valid               
         rollover of his J.D. Edwards & Co. stock in 1998.  They argue                
         that, because Norwest’s conclusion was wrong, the notice of                  
         deficiency, based thereon, must also be wrong.  According to                 
         petitioners:                                                                 
              respondents [sic] relied on the erroneous bank                          
              determination that the 1998 roll over of the ESOP to                    
              the IRA account * * * was valid and relied on the                       
              erroneous reporting that followed that determination by                 
              the bank.  * * * Hence, respondent’s determination in                   
              paragraph 3 [of the notice of deficiency] and                           
              consequently the deficiency notice is null and void.                    
              Petitioners do not explain the legal basis, or cite any                 
         authority, for their conclusion that they are not subject to tax             
         on the distributions from Mr. Kopty’s account at Norwest.  The               
         general rule is that any amount "paid or distributed out of" an              
         IRA is subject to tax as prescribed by section 72.  See sec.                 
         408(d)(1).  Petitioners seem to be arguing that Mr. Kopty’s                  







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