Ex parte FIALA et al. - Page 6




          Appeal No. 98-0024                                                          
          Application 08/467,306                                                      


          14, 16, 22 and 24 to be indefinite because they refer to an                 
          ASTM standard,  reasoning that "these factors could change in4                                                             
          time and not be a specific limitation anymore" (final                       
          rejection, page 3).  This rejection is repeated on page 4 of                
          the examiner's answer, but is not discussed in detail on pages              
          6 to 8.                                                                     
               In any event, we do not consider that the reference to                 
          the ASTM standard renders these claims indefinite.  The ASTM                
          standard referred to in the claims is the one in existence                  
          when the application was filed.  Such standards are published               
          annually, and if later amended, the previous standard would                 
          still be available.  See the discussion of the ASTM in Gore &               
          Assocs. Inc. v. Int'l. Medical Prosthetics Research Assocs.                 
          Inc., 16 USPQ2d 1241, 1244-45 (D. Ariz. 1990).   Thus one of                
          ordinary skill could readily determine the bounds of claims                 
          14, 16, 22 and 24.  In this regard, we note that it is not                  
          uncommon to recite ASTM standards or methods in claims.  See,               
          e.g., In re Saether, 492 F.2d 849, 851, 181 USPQ 36, 38 (CCPA               


               These claims each recite "said flexible outer tube being high-density4                                                                     
          polyethylene qualified as type III, category 5, class C, selected from Grades
          P23 and P24 as per ASTM D1248."                                             

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