WINKER V. ABILEAH et al. - Page 5




          Interference No. 104,372                                                    
          Winker v. Abileah                                                           

          between Abileah’s claims and all claims Winker proposed to                  
          include in Winker’s reissue application, since all claims in                
          the Winker reissue application will require a positively                    
          birefringent O-plate layer as the first deposited thin-film                 
          compensator layer.  The APJ took the information under                      
          advisement                                                                  
               C.   Second conference call                                            
               A second telephone conference call was held on 3 November              
          1999, involving:                                                            
                    1.   John J. Deinken, Esq., counsel for junior party              
                         Winker;                                                      
                    2.   Joseph A. Rhoa, Esq., counsel for senior party               
                         Abileah; and                                                 
                    3.   Jameson Lee, Administrative Patent Judge (APJ).              
               D.   Discussion--second conference call                                
               The APJ proposed the following to the parties:                         
                    1.   The APJ will sua sponte change the count to                  
               read the same as Abileah’s application claim 96,                       
               which requires each of the first and second                            
               deposited thin-film compensator layer to be selected                   
               from the group consisting of (i) a positively                          

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