Ex parte HALL - Page 2




          Appeal No. 2000-1622                                                        
          Application No. 08/752,445                                                  


               The reference applied in the final rejection is:                       
          Groeniger                     2,340,323                     Feb.            
          1, 1944                                                                     
               The appealed claims stand finally rejected on the                      
          following grounds:                                                          
          (1) Claims 66 to 68, 70, 72, 75 and 78 to 85, unpatentable for              
          failure to comply with 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph.                   
          (2) Claims 66 to 68, 70, 72 and 75 to 86, anticipated by                    
          Groeniger, under 35 U.S.C. § 102(b).                                        
          Rejection (1): 35 U.S.C. § 112, Second Paragraph                            
               The essence of examiner’s position with regard to this                 
          rejection is contained in the following quotation from page 6               
          of the examiner’s answer:                                                   
                    defining the water closet carrier, an                             
                    element of the waste discharge system, as                         
                    having a width approximately the distance                         
                    between the consecutive vertical studs                            
                    (claim 66) renders the width of the water                         
                    closet carrier indefinite because the studs                       
                    are not positively recited elements of the                        
                    claimed subject matter.  They have merely                         
                    been presented as an intended use                                 
                    environment.                                                      
                         Similarly, defining the width (claims 68,                    
                    75, 84, and 85), and height (claims 72, 78, 79,                   
                    80, and 85) of the water closet carrier as a                      
                    direct relationship to the off-the-floor water                    
                    closet as well as distance that the water closet                  
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