Ex Parte HURWITZ - Page 6



                    Appeal No. 2003-0989                                                                                                                                  
                    Application No. 09/481,740                                                                                                                            

                    gathered has nothing to do with reputations of buyers and sellers                                                                                     
                    as determined by actual transaction participant behavior in                                                                                           
                    previous transactions.  See page 8 of Appellant's brief.  We note                                                                                     
                    that Appellant's independent claim 1 recites "building an                                                                                             
                    objective reputation profile of a transaction participant by an                                                                                       
                    objective third party participating in fulfillment of the                                                                                             
                    transaction based at least in part on the notifications."  We                                                                                         
                    note that independent claims 6 and 11 have similar language.                                                                                          
                              The Examiner states that Ebay does not specifically disclose                                                                                
                    an objective third party conducting the feedback profiling.  See                                                                                      
                    page 4 of the answer.  The Examiner argues that third party                                                                                           
                    groups routinely gather data regarding the conduct of buyers and                                                                                      
                    sellers and provide the data to new customers as an indication of                                                                                     
                    the validity and creditability of the institution.  The Examiner                                                                                      
                    argues that such examples include J.D. Power and Associates,                                                                                          
                    Underwriter's Laboratories, ABET, etc.  See page 5 of the answer.                                                                                     
                              The Federal Circuit reviews the Board's ultimate conclusion                                                                                 
                    of obviousness without deference, and the Board's underlying                                                                                          
                    factual determinations for substantial evidence.  In re Huston,                                                                                       
                    308 F.3d 1267, 1276, 64 USPQ2d 1801, 1806 (Fed. Cir. 2002) citing                                                                                     
                    In re Gartside, 203 F.3d 1305, 1316, 53 USPQ2d 1769, 1776 (Fed.                                                                                       
                    Cir. 2000).  "The Board's findings must extend to all material                                                                                        
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