Ex Parte GLOOR et al - Page 3




            Appeal No. 2003-1654                                                          Page 3              
            Application No. 09/439,310                                                                        


            the brief and reply brief (Paper Nos. 11 and 15) for the appellants’ arguments                    
            thereagainst.                                                                                     
                                                  OPINION                                                     
                   In reaching our decision in this appeal, we have given careful consideration to            
            the appellants’ specification and claims, to the applied prior art reference, and to the          
            respective positions articulated by the appellants and the examiner.  As a consequence            
            of our review, we make the determinations which follow.                                           
                                         The indefiniteness rejection                                         
                   The basis of the examiner’s rejection of claim 4 as being indefinite, as explained         
            on page 4 of the answer, is that                                                                  
                         dependent claim 4 does not disclose what one would expect                            
                         to gain or gather once establishment or non-establishment of                         
                         said written reports was confirmed.  Consequently, the result                        
                         of such a meeting does [sic] is vague and indefinite.                                

                   Claims are considered to be definite, as required by the second paragraph of 35            
            U.S.C. § 112, when they define the metes and bounds of a claimed invention with a                 
            reasonable degree of precision and particularity.  See In re Venezia, 530 F.2d 956, 958,          
            189 USPQ 149, 151 (CCPA 1976).  Just because a claim is broad does not mean that it               
            is indefinite.  See In re Johnson, 558 F.2d 1008, 1016 n.17, 194 USPQ 187, 194 n.17               
            (CCPA 1977); In re Miller, 441 F.2d 689, 693, 169 USPQ 597, 600 (CCPA 1971); In re                









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