Ex Parte Gray et al - Page 8

                 Appeal 2007-2198                                                                                        
                 Application 10/324,181                                                                                  
                 § 103(a) Rejection over Turi and Shimalla                                                               
                        Appellants do not dispute that Turi teaches or suggests a forming                                
                 apparatus including a forming surface with projections corresponding to the                             
                 representative appealed claim 1 apparatus but for the argued high aspect                                
                 ratio of one or greater and a columnar form of the claimed forming apparatus                            
                 projections (Answer 7).  In this regard, the Examiner notes that Turi                                   
                 discloses a pyramidal shaped forming apparatus projection without                                       
                 specifying any height limitation of the projection (Answer 11; Turi, figs. 23                           
                 and 24, element 121 and example 3).   Based on the above and a disclosed                                
                 ridge shaped projection height disclosed by Shimalla, the Examiner                                      
                 maintains that it would have been prima facie obvious to one of ordinary                                
                 skill in the art to have constructed the forming apparatus projections of Turi                          
                 in a high aspect ratio columnar (needle) form, a projection form within the                             
                 required aspect ratio and shape required by representative claim 1.  We                                 
                 agree.                                                                                                  
                        Appellants note that the ridge form of projection of Shimalla is not the                         
                 same as the projections of the forming apparatus (figs. 23 and 24) of  Turi                             
                 and that Turi’s pyramid shape projections are not of a generally columnar                               
                 form as required for the projections of representative claim 1 (Br. 11 and                              
                 12).   Because of these two argued distinctions, Appellants maintain that the                           
                 rejection lacks the requisite showing of a suggestion and/or or a reasonable                            
                 expectation of success for the proposed modification of the projections of                              
                 Turi (Br. 11-13).                                                                                       
                        We are not persuaded of any reversible error in the Examiner’s                                   
                 rejection by this argument.  In this regard, it is not necessary that suggestion                        
                 or motivation be found within the four corners of the references themselves;                            

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