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                    THE COURT:  The U.S. Tax Court.                                   
                    MR. TULLY:  I was in U.S. Tax Court one – one day.                
               Yes, one day in the last six, seven years, and I was                   
               never in Tax Court or in this Court prior to that.                     
               I've been in this Court one day, maybe two days, to                    
               pick up paperwork or something, but only one day for a                 
               hearing that lasted about four hours.  That's my only                  
               experience in United States Tax Court or any court.                    
          In fact, however, petitioner has had extensive experience in the            
          U.S. Tax Court.                                                             
               Petitioner appeared before the U.S. Tax Court, prior to his            
          appearance in the instant case, either pro se or as an officer of           
          certain charitable organizations, on nine different occasions.              
          See Oliver Family Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-234;              
          Hart Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-228; Resource                  
          Management Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-224; Share               
          Network Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-216; Tamaki                 
          Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-166; Tate Family Found.             
          v. Commissioner , T.C. Memo. 1999-165; Bowen Family Found. v.               
          Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-149; Tully v. Commissioner, T.C.              
          Memo. 1997-310; Oliver Family Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo.            
          1997-220.  Petitioner, moreover, is prosecuting the appeal of two           
          of these cases before the Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit,           
          and he prosecuted one case before a Federal District Court in               
          Tully v. Kaply, 81 AFTR 2d 98-2125 (C.D. Cal. 1998).  See Tate              
          Family Found. v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 1999-165.                         
          Additionally, although petitioner is not licensed to practice               
          law, he did attend law school.                                              





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