Ex parte VADO et al. - Page 8




          Appeal No. 1998-3006                                       Page 8           
          Application No. 08/586,977                                                  


          "elongated members" in claim 1 rendered the claim indefinite.               
          We agree with the examiner.  In our opinion, the phrase                     
          "elongated members such as ropes and lines" is indefinite                   
          since the metes and bounds thereof would not be known with a                
          reasonable degree of precision and particularity.  In that                  
          regard, it is not clear if the phrase "elongated members such               
          as ropes and lines" covers                                                  
          (1) all elongated members, (2) just ropes and lines, or                     
          (3) ropes, lines and some other elongated members which for                 
          some unexplained reason are like a rope or a line.  Accord Ex               
          parte Steigerwald, 131 USPQ 74, 75 (Bd. App. 1961) and Ex                   
          parte Hall, 83 USPQ 38, 39 (Bd. App. 1948).  See also, Ex                   
          parte Wu, 10 USPQ2d 2031, 2033 (Bd. Pat. App. & Int. 1989).                 


               With respect to claim 9, the appellants argue (brief, pp.              
          7-8) that the phrase "or the like" is recited in a statement                
          of intended use and "should not be subjected to the same                    
          scrutiny as structural elements of the claimed invention."  In              
          addition, the appellants state that the phrase "nautical line               
          or the like" would be understood to mean nautical line and                  









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