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                Interference No. 104,544 Paper149                                                                                              
                McDonald v. Miyazaki Page 28                                                                                                   
                        A. I'm kind of trying to figure out what you're asking me. I'm not                                                     
                                 sure - - Repeat the question.                                                                                 
                        Q. I'll ask it again. Did you ever test the biological activity of a C                                                 
                                 terminal fragment of TPO as that term is defined at column 7 of                                               
                                 your 666 patent? That is, [the] C-terminal fragment or domain                                                 
                                 [that] encompasses residues 154 to 332. Did you ever test that                                                
                                 material?                                                                                                     
                        A. I'm not going - - I'll say it this way: Not to my knowledge. But let me                                             
                                 say, I did test a lot of materials from Zymogenetics and also from                                            
                                 Genentech in my lab. And it is possible that they sent me that for                                            
                                 testing.                                                                                                      
                         0. Before April 1996, when you signed this declaration?                                                               
                         A. Yes.                                                                                                               
                         0. And do you have any documents that you've attached to any                                                          
                                 document you've submitted in this interference that support that?                                             
                         A. I've got a basement full of documents, mouse assays. I've                                                          
                                 worked -                                                                                                      
                         0. Dr. McDonald, documents that you have submitted. Documents                                                         
                                 that you have submitted, not documents that you have.                                                         
                         A. I don't think we have, no.                                                                                         
        [811 McDonald argues that any misrepresentation in the declaration is immaterial because                                               
                the claims would have also been allowed if the declaration had said TSF was the N                                              
                terminal f ragment plus a bit of the C-terminal f ragment (Paper 112 at 9).                                                    
                         McDonald's argument is implausible since the claims recite distinct fragments                                         
                with different sequences. A showing of prior invention must be consistent with what is                                         
                being claimed or it is meaningless. The examiner specifically relied on the showing as                                         
                it regarded the C-terminal fragment.                                                                                           








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