Ex Parte TAKAGI et al - Page 11




          Appeal No. 2002-1940                                                        
          Application 08/932,649                                                      


          more specific version, clearly the subject matter of very broad             
          independent claims 15 and 24 would have been even more obvious to           
          the artisan.                                                                
               Finally, we are unpersuaded by appellants' arguments at page           
          9 of the principal brief on appeal as to dependent claims 2, 3              
          and 25.  Appellants merely "submit" that the portions relied upon           
          by the examiner do not contain the alleged teachings and provide            
          no other detailed discussion other than this general urging of              
          patentability.  On the other hand, we are persuaded of the                  
          unpatentability of these claims by the examiner's discussion of             
          them beginning at page 8 of the answer where the examiner goes              
          into great detail corresponding the teachings of the references             
          to the respective features claimed.  We therefore sustain the               
          rejection of dependent claims 2, 3 and 25.  Appellants' general             
          mention of these claims at page 3 of the reply brief is                     
          unpersuasive in countering the arguments of the examiner in the             
          answer as to these claims as well.                                          
               In conclusion, we are unpersuaded by appellants' basic                 
          urgings in the brief and reply brief that there was no motivation           
          for the artisan to have combined the teachings and suggestions of           
          Kuo and Aviv and, even if the combination was proper, that the              


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