Ex Parte Shelley et al - Page 7



          Appeal No. 2005-1386                                                        
          Application No. 10/010,620                                                  

          The examiner has also not established that the HAK heating step of          
          Arnold would even be applied to any additional crimped, lofted              
          layer (Arnold, col. 7, ll. 21-24), much less shown that the HAK             
          heating step of Arnold would be “sufficient to set the crimps” as           
          required by step (d) of claim 7.  For the foregoing reasons, we             
          cannot sustain the examiner’s rejection of claim 7, and claims 8-           
          11, 13, and 15-20 which stand or fall with claim 7, under section           
          103(a) over Arnold in view of Kane.                                         
               We note that the telephone interviews alluded to by appellants         
          (Reply Brief, page 3) are not of record in this application.  Upon          
          the return of this application to the jurisdiction of the examiner,         
          the examiner and appellants should ensure a complete record of any          
          interviews.  See MPEP, § 713.04, 8th ed., p. 700-200, Rev. 2, May           
          2004.                                                                       











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