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Petitioners also began collecting books about bird breeding. Dr.
Knudsen also read several publications, including Bird Talk
magazine, about bird breeding.
Petitioners did not present any evidence that they consulted
with a paid adviser about the operation or economics of a bird
breeding business. Petitioners, however, did consult with
several bird enthusiasts about bird breeding. In the mid-1980s,
petitioners met a well-known bird breeder, Richard Shubot (Mr.
Shubot), who was involved in bird conservation. Petitioners
visited Mr. Shubot in Florida and spoke with him about his
experiences with bird breeding. Mr. Shubot talked with
petitioners about bird diets, temperature, and timing of eggs.
Dr. Knudsen and Mr. Shubot kept in touch monthly for several
years. In addition, Dr. Knudsen visited Dick Schroeder (Mr.
Schroeder), a bird breeder, at his facility in California. Dr.
Knudsen and Mr. Schroeder talked about setting up bird cages and
pairing birds in cages. Dr. Knudsen occasionally talked to Gail
Worth, head of the editorial board of Bird Talk magazine, about
setting up his bird breeding operation. Dr. Knudsen also
contacted a breeder in Minnesota about housing birds in an indoor
facility with artificial light.
After purchasing a large tract of land for bird breeding,
petitioners decided to expand their breeding activities to other
animals. In 1992, petitioners began purchasing camels and
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