Ex parte TOMARU et al. - Page 4




          Appeal No. 1997-3024                                                        
          Application 08/325,476                                                      

               Claims 1-20 stand rejected under 35 U.S.C. § 103 as being              
          unpatentable over Shibata in view of appellants’ admitted                   
          prior art (AAPA).                                                           





                  The 35 U.S.C. § 112, second paragraph, rejection                    
               Considering first the rejection of apparatus claims 1-5                
          and 17-20 under the second paragraph of 35 U.S.C. § 112, it is              
          the examiner’s view (answer, page 4) that the support, i.e.,                
          the web 30, cannot be considered part of the claimed apparatus              
          because it is the material being operated upon.  The examiner               
          maintains that                                                              
               [s]ince the support is not part of the claimed                         
               apparatus, there is no required positioning for the                    
               support and, therefore, the distance [T] between the                   
               support [30] and the plate [7] cannot be calculated                    
               with definiteness.  As a result, the area [T x W]                      
               which is calculated based on the measured distance                     
               [T] also cannot be calculated with definiteness, and                   
               the overall claims lack definiteness.  [Answer, page                   
               4].                                                                    
               Because we do not agree with the examiner’s foundation                 
          position that the support is not part of the claimed subject                
          matter, we will not sustain this rejection.  Lines 1-3 of                   

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