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         Interference No. 104,290                                                            



         were placed on a conductive plate on a lab bench and a probe                        

         was inserted into the livers. Electrodes were deployed manually                     

         into the livers and rf electric current from the electrosurgical                    

         unit was used to ablate the liver tissue around the deployed                        

         electrodes.                                                                         

                    In contradistinction to LeVeen's testimony that the                      

         successful tests establish a reduction to practice of the subject                   

         matter of the count, Edwards adduces testimony from an expert                       

         witness to the effect that demonstrations between June and                          

         October, inclusive, were not successful experiments in the                          

         required functional setting leading to a legal determination of                     

         reduction to practice. The Edward witnesses are Hansen and                          

         Siperstein."                                                                        

                    The following are our findings with respect to this                      

         testimony. According to Hansen, the experiments did not demon                       

         strate the ability to accurately position the apparatus in an                       





               12 Much of the cross examination of Hansen consists of                        
         questions designed to show that Hansen is not an expert according                   
         to Hansen's own definition or showing that Hansen was not an                        
         expert or one of ordinary skill in the relevant art in 1993. it                     
         is our finding thaE Hansen is an expert in rf ablation of liver                     
         tumors based on education and experience, and we find his entire                    
         testimony to be relevant and credible.                                              

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