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          Appeal No. 2004-0434                                                        
          Application No. 09/836,686                                                  


          we find that Berstis teaches performing digital audio file                  
          transfers between first and second portable devices (facts 1-4)             
          where there is also a transfer of copy control information (fact            
          6).  We note that Berstis is silent as to the specific part of              
          the copy control information that is transferred.  However, we              
          find that in the situation where there is copying of a set number           
          of "permitted copies" (fact 5), one of ordinary skill in the art            
          would recognize that the copy tracking (fact 10) of Berstis would           
          be inoperative if the transferred copy control information (fact            
          6) did not include a count of the number of permitted copies                
          (fact 5).  Therefore, Berstis teaches "sending a transfer count             
          from a first portable device to a second portable device."                  
               Appellant's further argument, "nowhere does Berstis (or                
          Abecassis) disclose or suggest, a method in which a music file is           
          transferred to a second portable device from a first portable               
          device" is equally unpersuasive.  A person skilled in the art               
          would recognize that Berstis teaches multi-stage file transfers             
          from a first device to a second device and then to a third device           
          (facts 7-10).  See for example, Berstis figure 4, the transfer              
          from item 44 (a first portable device) to item 24 (a second                 
          portable device), and then to device 26.  We find that the                  
          combination of Berstis and Abecassis teach a "method in which a             



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