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                    HEARING OFFICER KANE:  I’m not familiar with that                 
               case.  It sounds like the Supreme Court said a                         
               technicality, instructions weren’t given to the jury                   
               properly, it didn’t say that that position was, was                    
               based on law and a solid position.  I’m not familiar                   
               with that, but there are dozens of court cases where                   
               these arguments have been presented and I’m not aware                  
               of any of them that have been successful.                              
                    MR. JEWETT:  Well, the Supreme Court is the                       
               ultimate arbiter and when the Supreme Court tells us                   
               something, I tend to believe it.  They’re the only,                    
               they’re the only court whose word is final.                            
                    HEARING OFFICER KANE:  But it didn’t tell us what                 
               you’re saying it told us, at least if I heard you                      
               correctly.                                                             
                    MR. JEWETT:  It said that that belief is an                       
               absolute, it is a defense to a charge of failing to                    
               file a return, and my clients rely on that.  You know,                 
               my clients subsequently filed for these years 1040X’s                  
               in which they indicated that, that they actually didn’t                
               have any income, they had zero income for Federal                      
               income tax purposes.  Now, the reasons why are                         
               extensive and they have been dealt with in the                         
               paperwork that I’ve given you, so I’m not going to go                  
               into that.                                                             
               The Appeals officer provided to petitioners literal                    
          transcripts of their account.  On April 17, 2002, a copy of Form            
          4340, Certificate of Assessments, Payments, and Other Specified             
          Matters, was sent to petitioners.                                           
               On September 18, 2002, a Notice of Determination Concerning            
          Collection Action(s) Under Section 6320 and/or 6330 was sent to             
          petitioners.  The notice indicated the frivolous nature of                  
          petitioners’ arguments and stated:  “It has been determined that            
          the lien filing and proposed levy action are sustained.  The                







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