Eugene J. Phillips and Barbara A. Phillips - Page 23

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          that such matters were of relative indifference to them when                
          compared to the management and care of the horses themselves."              
          Alternatively, respondent argues that petitioners did not                   
          establish that they consulted experts one-on-one regarding the              
          business aspects of raising horses.                                         
               Petitioners argue that they knew the business and economic             
          aspects of their horse activity.  Petitioners contend that they             
          have spent a considerable amount of time and effort to learn                
          about the Arabian horse and quarter horse industries by attending           
          seminars at conventions and colleges.  Additionally, petitioners            
          made a budget, estimated when the horse activity would be                   
          profitable, and determined the costs per horse per month.                   
               Petitioners also contend that Mrs. Phillips herself is an              
          expert in horse breeding.  Additionally, in the positions that              
          she held, Mrs. Phillips met agriculture teachers, college                   
          professors, and 4-H people, with whom she discussed horse                   
          breeding issues.  Finally, petitioners argue that they consulted            
          with experts at horse conventions, where there were marketing and           
          management seminars.                                                        
               The regulations provide that consulting with experts                   
          regarding an activity's accepted practices may indicate that the            
          taxpayer has a profit motive where the taxpayer carries on the              
          activity in accordance with such practices.  Sec. 1.183-2(b)(2),            








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